As of late, there are two, very imporant calculations that needs to be taken a closer took at.
1. Regarding Darth Nihilus' feat, the actual yield of the feat turned out to be just over 1 exaton of TNT (I made an extra post in the actual calc below), which should be the starting point of Multi-Continent level+. As for who would scale to this, the list is compiled below.
- Darth Traya (Took a full powered force drain from Nihilus and Sion, and still had energy left, although this scaling is rather wonky as Darth Nihilus can telekinetically dominate Kreia or Meetra Surik)
- Meetra Surik (Seemed to have defeated Nihilus)
- Darth Revan, and Jedi Revan (Should be above Meetra and likely Nihilus)
- Darth Malak (Comparable to Revan during their final fight)
- Darth Sion (Comparable to Surik; contributed to the force draining of Traya)
- Darth Nyriss (Dominated both Meetra Surik and Scourge)
All of these guys would get the rating "At least Multi-Continent level+" Revan and Malak get the rating '"At least Multi-Continent level+, likely higher"', due to Meetra's description of Revan as "literally blinding".
You know what, I'll just post the entirety of my discussion with Chaos here in this quote.
| “ | Old Sith: Only Darth Revan, Malak, and Traya (to an extent). Shan, and Marr by extension, are considered weaker than Meetra Surik by Lord Scourge so no for her or the Dark Council. Can't think of anything to link Malgus to either.
New Sith: Who? Rule of Two? Why? He's not part of the order. From what I understand, the circumstances of Vitiate's defeat was largely from being weakened to some unknown extent. I don't take nexus seriously as anything more than minor percentage based boosts (especially when your body generally houses the Force energy of a planet in regular circumstances). Just as a Dark Sider experiences a boost from them, conversely a Light Sider would experience equal and opposite nerfs. A battle between a light sider and dark sider on a nexus that ends up appearing equal in every regard? Think of it like this, if the nexus offers a 2x boost/nerf? On neutral ground that's a net difference of 4x in the favor of the light sider. As you can surmise... I can't think of an example of that scenario where the light sider on neutral ground just starts to plow through the dark sider's physical blows with their own like they're not even there or ripping through their force defenses/powers like the dark sider is fodder. Often the showings in such scenarios doesn't vastly differ between on and off nexus. Or, a more exaggerated example... think of how wanked Thon would be if the nexus on Ambria was muting his power by any significant divisor. HoT is clearly stronger than Shan and probably at least greater than Surik off Lord Scourge's testimony, but I don't know how to judge him further than that. Depends on how weakened the Voice he fought was, but its clear the combined Dreadmasters had more power than the voice during the Oricon bullshit, so he seems to have suffered a great loss of power from the failed ritual. |
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| ~ ChaosTheory123 |
As for who doesn't scale:
- Satele Shan, and Darth Marr (Both were considered to be weaker than Meetra Surik by Lord Scourge)
- Darth Malgus
- Dark Council (Via scaling to Darth Marr)
- The new Jedi/Sith, such as Thon, Darth Bane, Vader, etc.
Actually, Darth Bane would scale to Thon who had a Multi-Continent level feat, along with Vader, Obi-Wan, Anakin Skywalker, etc..
I asked this specific question to Chaos regarding Bane's actual Force Power and where he stands in this quote here:
| “ | From what I have heard from other VS sites, Bane was actually supposed to be > Old Republic Sith due to his knowledge, as well as the Dark Side energy being concentrated into two people instead of being split into multiple Sith, thus making their powers that much stronger.
Also, Bane's Force Lightning literally disintegrates people similar to Sidious does, signifying the actual power of Bane's Force Abilities. Here I have thought that Bane would have been comparable, if not slightly weaker than Plagueis/Sidious in power? |
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| ~ Lina Shields |
| “ | A decent accolade and probably what they're talking about. Thing about it though? His greater "knowledge and mastery" in addressing Sith techniques and power can also be read as "Dark sided force powers" (Sith techniques) and "the dark side of the Force" (Sith power).
Thus a synonymous sentence can be read as "Darth Bane gained more knowledge and mastery of [Dark Sided] Force Powers and the Dark Side of the Force than anyone who had come before him". My representation of the sentence is further corroborated by the next sentence putting "mastery" into the context of "skill" over "power". As for the Dark side being concentrated into 2 people? That's certainly Bane's interpretation of things, but its hardly corroborated by any of the actual source material. The Son and Abeloth, two beings vastly more powerful in the Dark Side than Bane, still kind of exist and all. Them and the numerous Sith spirits (while weaker than in life, they're still of the dark side) and Dark Side nexus in the galaxy (Ambria's immediately springs to mind... the nexus is still sealed in a lake and clearly not fueling Bane's power by the end of Bane's life). Nyriss does the exact same thing with her own lightning. Vaporizing a human body or, in the case of Bane, nearly vaporizing a large Drexl while vaporizing 4 people is still a bit feat and not worthy of real comparison as they all powerscale to much higher. |
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| ~ ChaosTheory123 |
About Vitiate's Planetary Feat[]
Will get to it later. However, we do know that at the time of Ziost, Vitiate was able to sub-atomically annihilate all the water (I mean water) on the planet without any assistance.