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  • should we create a profile for Ichibē Hyōsube of bleach, or should we wait a little longer for more feats?

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    • I prefer the second option, better wait a little longer for more feats.

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    • I'm think, that he's in quad digits mach

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    • he should be a god tier though, he did fight yhwach evenly.

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    • Isn't Yhwach omnipotent?

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    • no he isn't, what gave that idea?

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    • He has almighty power, which is omnipotence

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    • we don't  know what exactly the almighty title gives him or what power does he have to be called that, we must wait a few more chapters before we can say anything decisive, and going by the literal meaning is pointless...almighty could also mean enourmus power, which is a very reletive term... 

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    • We know, that it's true omnipotent power of "A"

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    • how do you know that, enlighten me...show a scan that proves omnipotence, i want to tell you that to prove omnipotence is very hard and sometime not even an author statement is enough, to prove omnipotence you need to prove that yhwach has: A) unlimited power, B) unlimited variety of attacks, C) the ability to destroy and create anything, no matter of size , shape or form, D) no weaknesses what so ever. if you can prove that yhwach has all that i will believe you.....

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    • Well, getting technical, the dictionary definition is simply to possess unlimited and supreme power, but I tend to be a little pickier than that and want the character to be unable to be weakened from dealing with lesser beings as well.

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    • 1)He has omnipotent power and manga states that

      2)He has name of omnipotent god, which means, that he's really can be omnipotent.

       i want to tell you that to prove omnipotence is very hard

      Prove omnipotence is impossible.

      It's just exist and Yhwach one of this omnipotents

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    • Please try to ignore all IPs starting with 37. It is User:N Agizar, a serial troll. He gets his amusement from giving very inaccurate information on power listing wikis. Essentially kicking over buildings just to see the reactions.

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    • oh, i didn't notice it was him, thanks Antvasima...

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    • Here is no evidence about Yhwach's not omnipotence.

      It was stated, that he's ominpotent and he is.

      You're haters

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    • This is what I mean. He switches between parodying different types of fans, with extremely contradictory arguments from time to time.

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    • omnipotence is something you need to prove, not somthing other people need to disprove, and for omnipotence statement aren't enough usually....and by the way yhwach was weakend at least twice by ichibei, and ichibei fought him evenly at his full power, and ichibei isn't an omnipotent by any means, which is proof enough of yhwach not being omnipotent.

      don't call everyone who disagrees with you a hater/wanker, it makes you sound like a child...

      i for one am a bleach fan, the only series in the HST that i find to have some quality writing behind, naruto was a mediocre series, and one piece is simply redundent in my opinion...so don't assume things you don't know

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    • LOL, i'm not the guy who trying to said that one of the bleach's character is omnipotent. But can i ask ? 

      Can the writer/Author/Artist count as the Omnipotent ? Because in Dragon Ball/Arale we have Tori-bot is the Author of their verse. Even Akira stated that he = him XD 

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    • Oops , i mean Dr Slum :p

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    • Yes, I believe so, although Toriyama does not seem to write Tori-bot as omnipotent, if I remember correctly?

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    • omnipotence is something you need to prove

      It's impossible for human.

      We are jus know, that it's exist.

      ....and by the way yhwach was weakend at least twice by ichibei, and ichibei fought him evenly at his full power, and ichibei isn't an omnipotent by any means, which is proof enough of yhwach not being omnipotent.

      Because Yhwach wanted it.

      And later he's one-shoted him.

      don't call everyone who disagrees with you a hater/wanker, it makes you sound like a child...

      Hater and wanker are two different things.

      Your idiotism dosen't make me like child.

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    • N Agizar. I technically still think that you have been trolling me and others for fun, but it has been pointed out to me that I have probably overreacted towards you in the past. I shouldn't have done that and apologise for the insults. I will attempt to keep my temper better in check in the future.

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    • Ok, you're not hurt me.

      Someone like [[1]](He's kinda stupid and aggressive sometimes) wanted to destroy my soul.

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    • I'm used to something like this and it's not bothering me.

      You can talk everything, that you think, if you want.

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    • ....and by the way yhwach was weakend at least twice by ichibei, and ichibei fought him evenly at his full power, and ichibei isn't an omnipotent by any means, which is proof enough of yhwach not being omnipotent.

      Because Yhwach wanted it.

      And later he's one-shoted him.

      we don't lnow what happand next yet, that is one thing, or at least i haven't read it yet, and how do you know yhwach wanted ichibei to kick his ass for the entire fight?

      don't call everyone who disagrees with you a hater/wanker, it makes you sound like a child...

      Hater and wanker are two different things.

      Your idiotism dosen't make me like child.

      sigh, i know that a hater and wanker are two different things, but calling someone a hater just because he disagrees with you about something that is still quastionable is indeed a childish act, it sounds like a tantrum...just like when you called me a wanker of the naruto series even though i thought (and i still think so) it was mediocre at best...

      you can say what ever you want about me, i don't give a fuck about what you think, it will be a very bad day when i'll let some random guy's opinion of me bother me, i have a life outside of this website, so call me an idiot as much as you like, i really don't care...hopefully you treat your friends better when you argue with them.

      on a different note, since we are in a dissagrement here, Antvasima, i would like, if possible, to hear your input on the subject.

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    • we don't lnow what happand next yet, that is one thing, or at least i haven't read it yet, and how do you know yhwach wanted ichibei to kick his ass for the entire fight?

      If Yhwach want to kill Ichibei, he'll do it.

      sigh, i know that a hater and wanker are two different things, but calling someone a hater just because he disagrees with you about something that is still quastionable is indeed a childish act, it sounds like a tantrum...just like when you called me a wanker of the naruto series even though i thought (and i still think so) it was mediocre at best...

      I'm called you hater not because you're disagree with me.

      I'm said that, because you're don't use logic in your posts and sometimes you talking like wanker(Madara continental, while he can't bust country etc. etc. etc...)

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    • on a different note, since we are in a dissagrement here, Antvasima, i would like, if possible, to hear your input on the subject.

      I obviously think that in a setting with country or continent level character, we need considerably greater validation for Yhwach being anywhere near omnipotent. He may very well be the most powerful character in the setting, but nothing as of yet indicates high infinite supremacy levels of raw power. I also think that N Agizar also agrees with this and is only pretending not to for fun.

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    • You're confusing supreme being and omnipotent being.

      Omnipotent being can be fodder,supreme,mid tier etc.etc...

      Omnipotent ca do anything, that he wants.

      Yhwach has a chance to be omnipotent 

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    • No. The word omnipotence means supreme infinite power according to the dictionary. Antvasima (talk) 17:09, December 18, 2014 (UTC)

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    • omnipotence means just infinite power.

      True omnipotence not limited by supremacy and can be anything

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    • I'm said that, because you're don't use logic in your posts and sometimes you talking like wanker(Madara continental, while he can't bust country etc. etc. etc...)

      all i ever use is logic, and i base my arguments on calculations that are widely accepted, i am always willing to accept i am wrong if a proper, well based, detailed rebuttle is presented to me, sadly you havn't shown me anything that diractly contredicts the calcs, calcs which still stand....

      therefor i still chose to believe calcs which are mathmatically correct and are well based and supported, i have openly told you to give me a link to where those calcs were debunked (and that is because you said they were) and you haven't provided any of those.

      regardless i do not wish to open this argument again, it is clear that we will never reach an agreement, and i don't want to fill Rocks75 massage wall with this argument, especially when the argument will be fruitless anyways....

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    • all i ever use is logic, and i base my arguments on calculations that are widely accepted, i am always willing to accept i am wrong if a proper, well based, detailed rebuttle is presented to me, sadly you havn't shown me anything that diractly contredicts the calcs, calcs which still stand.

      I'm showed scans, which is proves, that Narutoworld is small

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    • http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/omnipotent

      I tend to interpret this in the strictest sense of the definition, as in having both infinite power and absolute authority/supremacy.

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    • Here is more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnipotence

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    • I'm showed scans, which is proves, that Narutoworld is small 

      and i have shown calcs that are mathmetically correct and have base in the manga that show that the naruto world is as large if not larger then are own, accompanied with physics explanations to boot, i have no intention of reopening that argument, i have no desire to fill Rocks75's Massage wall with a fruitless argument, we won't reach an agreement anyways, lets agree to disagree, i will stick to the calcs, and you to your scans....

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    • and i have shown calcs that are mathmetically correct and have base in the manga that show that the naruto world is as large if not larger then are own

      Manga shows, that Naruto world is small and many people agree with that.

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    • I tend to interpret this in the strictest sense of the definition, as in having both infinite power and absolute authority/supremacy.

      With infinite power you can be anyone and everyone

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    • Manga shows, that Naruto world is small and many people agree with that.

      and calcs, which i find more credible then subjective opinions about manga scans, suggest otherwise, now lets agree to disagree and stop arguing, this argument is fruitless anyways and i dont want to fill Rocks75's massage wall with pointless arguments...

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    • and calcs, which i find more credible then subjective opinions about manga scans, suggest otherwise

      Normal pixel scaling shows, that objects of Narutoworld are small and world it too

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    • Correct pixel scaling that use Depth Perception is the one you should rely on, and this is the pixel scaling that the calcs use, i am done with this topic, i have other things to do, i do not have any particular interest in having an internet pissing contest with you, i've realized that i will never be able to convince you, and honestly, you should have realized the same, i am moving to more important things, so find a different topic... 

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