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All things stand as I determined the morning of the worlds. For you are the king of contrivance and manipulation Samael. But in that. As in all things----you learned from your father.
~ The Presence to Michael and Lucifer


The Presence is the representation of the Judeo-Christian God in the DC Multiverse and the father of both Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos. Although his power is virtually unparalleled, he rarely interferes in the affairs of mortals directly, instead acting through agents and aspects of himself, such as The Spectre.

Powers and Stats

Tier: 1-A

Name: Yahweh, Jehovah, The Presence, God of the Covenant

Origin: DC Comics/Vertigo

Gender: Inapplicable. Portrayed as Male

Age: Inapplicable. Older than Creation

Classification: Deity, Supreme God

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Types 1, 3 and 4), Regeneration (True-Godly), Reality Warping, Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Nothingness Manipulation, Void Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Life and Death Manipulation, Acausality, Causality Manipulation, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Teleportation, Flight, Omnipresence, Nigh-Omniscience

Attack Potency: Outerverse level (The Presence is the creator god of the DC-Vertigo continuity, immensely above both Michael Demiurgos and Lucifer Morningstar, and superior to the boundless and beyond-dimensional Mother Night. Limited only by The Overvoid. In at least one story even the unbound Spectre and other archangels, who completely transcend dimensions, were presented as nothing but his thoughts/part of his imagination. The Presence is a very inconsistent character, mostly due to writers having different interpretations, not caring about previous portrayals, or simply lacking knowledge. For example, in the second Vertigo Lucifer series, the archangels were portrayed as capable of causing very severe damage to the character.)

Speed: Omnipresent

Lifting Strength: Irrelevant

Striking Strength: Outerversal

Durability: Outerverse level

Stamina: Infinite

Range: Outerversal

Standard Equipment: None Notable

Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscient.

Weaknesses: None notable

Note 1: The Presence has stated that he was shaped by external forces, apparently intended to be the beliefs and imaginations of humanity, rather than a 4th Wall reference to the writers or real-world humans. This concept was introduced in The Sandman: A Dream of a Thousand Cats, which depicts that originally cats were the dominant species on Earth, being giant beasts which hunted humans. However, the collected dream of a world where humans ruled over cats altered reality from it's very beginning, making it so that humans were always larger than cats.

He is incapable of killing The Great Evil Beast, with both being equal halves of the same whole. The Presence is also not fully Omniscient. There are certain things he doesn't know, and which occur outside of his plan, and he cannot know the thoughts of comparable beings.

Furthermore as of the 2015 Vertigo Lucifer Comic, The Presence was severely injured, or temporarily killed by the archangel Gabriel Hornblower, although apparently with a weapon that he himself fashioned, and was later cut to pieces by Lucifer himself.

In addition, Jin En Mok such as Cestis are supposedly much older than he is, which would contradict that he created everything.

Given all of the above, we are scaling him from being far above both Michael Demiurgos and Lucifer Morningstar.

Note 2: Before making any changes to this page, please read and follow the Power-scaling Rules for Marvel and DC Comics.



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