When DaMatteis recently confirmed on Twitter Creator was meant to be God/TOAA....
YES! YES! YES! Albeit, that implies Job Burke... A child ... is within a made story [ not canon ] ... stronger than an vastly amped TOAA ... Dear god. That is actually incredibly weird , yet satisfying to say.
I mean these statements are pretty legitimate . I know.. I still need to get their permission. Before they say anything : Job Burke was referred by Creator/TOAA as Master , and TOAA feared him after several amps, wanting to trick him and kill him to make sure he didn't become aware.
And yes i will get their attention sooner or later. He also says that Living Tribunal , Eternity, and All Creations is a part of his dream... Further implying it is TOAA.
This tier list is 100% my opinion so dont take it as fact. Also it doesnt include the Original Dragon Ball since i dont know all about it so im sorry about that. I might have missed some characters too. But here it is:
ToP fodder is hard to scale.
Honestly dbs as a whole is hard to scale, because conflicting WoG and PIS.
This list, while it is has some what ifs and doubts is pretty good.
Most dbs lists are pretty cringe tbh.
Super Shenron is hard to scale because he does not have any feats and only statements, iirc I remember someone saying he is above the gods, which seems legit, but below the angels. I think his placement deserves a question mark.
The Tien vs Krillin debate is strong enough honestly we can place the two closer with one another.
Dabura is probably canonically stronger then perfect cell, not sure about super perfect cell but I do think he can be argued for number one in large star level. (Albeit this is also because Gohan slacked off his training and might have more raw power but worse combat sense.)
Ultimate Gohan is probably closer to SSB Goku current then in your list, but I can settle where he is currently at considering the narrator < plot
Alot of the universe level ones are a little too close to call imo. For example: Golden Freeza and Toppo seem close enough in strength if we added nuance, it would probably be = in strength
Example: SoH Trunks = Merged Zamasu. It is really close iirc
Super Shenron was stated to be able to kill a god with his wish fulfilment powers. I placed him higher than Jiren because I doubt he could outright kill a god with a wish even if he is stronger than them.
I agree with the rest of your points though. I had a tough time with the Universals. I was begging to get to DBZ.
Hmm I'm not sure what you meant with your first question. A tectonic character can destroy an Island,Country or Continent and a planetary character can destroy Small planets,regular planets and large planets.
Also Infinite Multiverses could potentially be High 2-A.
Unsure if this will go anywhere.. But since you were at the previous thread... I figured I should at least let you know about " another one " .
Here is the thread in question : (http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:1006944 ) . This could lead to Massive Upgrades. Like ... Possibly 2-A to High 2-A big for scaling from the Egyptian Gods, and GX Top-God Tiers . ( Transcending 2-C to 2-B reality is supposedly in High 2-A feat... ) . This may be ambitious ( It likely is ... ) ... But this is something undiscussed, so it may have a fighting chance.
Umm...[ Squeals like a little girl inside ] ... When Azzy agrees to High 2-A Yu-Gi-Oh! though !!! Oh my goodness, it may actually go through. And if my proposition for composite Yugioh is accepted... I can die happy XD .
I am in the process of deducting a series of feats that scale to FRt that is beyond anything we've seen. Can you check the link above and give your input please ? It would be really appreciated. BTW, the feat I mentioned first has to do with Galactus' apparently true nature...
I would like feedback on the following thread, because more than likely it will be ignored by others. Help is definitely appreciated once again, albeit I am unsure how to repay you for doing what you have done for me . It is about FR , Man-Thing, Thanos & Galactus . I found this new info on Marvunapp... And with it, i realized that the possibility of them reaching new heights has been skyrocketed . Here is the mentioned thread :http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:983740
I am not planning on making a page for it, as it is very ridiculous, yet seems legitimate simultaneously. Because of how ridiculous this is, I wont be making a profile for it, but maybe I will. Just depends..
Although I think that if you can you should edit the original post of your thread to contain screenshots and/or scenes in which the statements and/or feats appear in the anime before someone else calls you out for it.
I would just like to see the feats/statements so I can make a valid case and not look biased.
- In the very beginning, Judai said time is stopped. This is shown by the clock being still. Then he says that is duel space is for him and Yugi. They can move in paused spacetime. I don't know whether to rate this as hax . Older Yugi sent Baden to this spacetime he created.
Little Yugi :
- Has the strongest spiritual deck.
- Scared Judai with his cards power and his own spiritual strength . Little Yugi
- Was declared the most powerful / strongest duelist in said duel by Judai.
- His existences glitters brighter than anything Judai has encountered. Yeah, another superior feat to Judai.
All of the statements I had, sans Darkness, who obviously wouldn't be referenced in the duel.
Well I agree with most of that especially the statements with Little Yugi. Although the feat that I believe you should really screenshot or link is the Timeline creation feat which is the most important IMO.
As for the Time-Stop thing it should probably be best if we considered it Hax. Not only that but Infinite Speed is given to characters who normally exist in a place with no Time. So I think it should be Hax IMO.
Glad to see you agree with it. Even if we refuse to accept the timeline creation, scaling from Judai is HUGE. Can't put enough emphasis, considering how powerful Judai is ( he's the strongest protagonist. That's gonna change though )
Older Yugi sent him to that timeline, using the cards, which Judai comments was created just for him and Yugi. I'll get unto it in a bit. It shouldn't be too far to find.
For one, it is worth nothing the OBD accepts the feat as creang a timeline for Older Yugi in GX. On the video clip I sent a few moments ago , it literally said : " This space time was created JUST for Yugi & Judai. " . Who was the only one who was involved with it. Older Yugi. Even without using evidence, it makes the most sense, as he was the one who teleported them there in the first place, shown here
Hmm well if the OBD agrees with it then it's fine by me to be honest. But I will probably answer tomorrow because I'm a bit tired now and it's a bit late from were I'm from. But best of luck to you👍👍👍.