Why are you downplaying Minomon? He seems to legitimately be 2-A. Regardless if his attack is just a pinecone, are you telling me a pinecone thrown by All Might or Goku or Saitama wouldn't do anything to me?
Then the same applies to Min. He should be able to obliterate DIO if he actually manages to hit him.
I'd like for it to be settled given how long it's been going. It feels odd it was closed for one user when there were multiple users discussing it, especially since said user is still active daily on the Wiki.
I see, that's understandable then. I would have preferred it to be left open so the discussion could be settled as soon as possible given the controversy of it. Such a hiatus I feel is detracting attention away from it and just going to make it a slog.
Either way, the thread was already past 50 of the allocated comments and it already seemed to be going in a circle with the same people arguing for and against. The only difference being new user kudos-ing comments they agree with as you said.
Setsuna tenma wrote: All hadou and gudou gods are 1A because of taiji.Space-time as a whole is a binary concept and they transend binary concepts.
Just transcending Binary concepts won't do anything, feats are what that matter the most.
DC's Universe has Metaverses (collections of infinite multiverses, wherein each universe constantly per moment multiplies into infinite universes then infinite multiverses to no end) and , and Lucifer is thereby Metaversal and confirms DC's proper usage of an exaggerated Infinite Higher Spatial Dimensional Cosmology on top of innumerable layers of existence which adds more Metaverses into the mix.
That is, in fact, a feat that no Dies Irae character comes even close to, unless you use outerverse unquantifiable "dimensionless outerverse" claims that allows you to make massive leaps in logic and skip multiversity feats type of non sense of course. Much of the arguments from Reinhard side is mostly NLF upon NLF upon NLF upon NLF. Just NLFs over and over and abusing the "Beyond Concept" arguments again. And the whole "dimensionless >>> dimensioned" non sense again. I am not talking about you, but this is what happens in every Dies Irae Characters vs Outerversal Beings thread.
Even WF Mxy who is a 5D Imp destroyed infinite higher spatial dimensions in it with little effort and can just recreate them again like it was nothing. And he's not even Outerversal. That is a meta destructive feat far beyond any Dies Irae character feat and how many Dimensions their Taikyoku has shown feats to affect. Can you imagine Outerversal characters from DC compared to Dies Irae's characters?