Why can't i refute? And who said im a big The Hero fanboy anyway? Iap is the one who gave Medaka the power. Anyway i'll answer ur question:
How would u be able to find out? How would u be able to know whether this author would like another character over Medaka. Preference is not objective so it's impossible to decide. But since Medaka is supossed to be "the main character" and the hero is "the main character trait" then someone who is more "main character" than her would do the trick i guess?
There is no exact way "around" the hero. It's just "i'll win cus he says so". Though every main character has that trait. So it's not like it's that unbeatable. Every MC has that exact trait. So Medaka vs...Issei Hyoudou would end in a tie because the author doesn't let either of them lose.
Nisio says: "medaka is omnipotent"
Ichiei says: "Issei is above that"
Nisio: You can't be above omnipotence
Ichiei: Yes you can cus i said so.
That will happen in any fight. (Nisio is Medaka's author while Ichiei is DxD's author btw)
The God Of Procrastination wrote: Aside from things like Natsu losing to Gildarts.
Oh btw can you do me a favor?
Since people believe it is hard to beat Medaka Box characters unless there is someone really haxed. I need you to create a vs battle for me:
The Name will be: Fire's Request (or Earl's Request, choose whichever you want): Why it's easy to find ppl who can win vs Medaka Box.
the participants will be: Galand and Kumagawa (full on SBA)
And the argument for why Galand wins is: Kumagawa tends to joke around and/or lie about stuff, that will result in him getting stoned. (anything can work, example kumagawa saying "oh that kind of strength, i might die if im hit by it", that's a lie so he gets owned).
Also mention in one of the comments that i vote Galand.
Well i did once try to play Dies Irae Amantes Amantes, which i stumbled upon on steam right after watching the anime. Though i just can't seem to get past the parts i've already watched, soooo i dropped it.
And i wouldn't say i have an interest in the verse, it's just 1 of those verses that have heavy fanbase, the other one being Jojo and Dragon Ball. So i just like to break them. xD
Ehhh... I wont say the Masadaverse has a heavy fanbase :P it's just the most popular for how many chuuni 1-A it has, lol. People are usually too lazy to read the visual novel so Masadaverse fans are actually few in number :P JoJo and DB are undoubtedly huge tho.
Badass is more likethis guy . Or this guy though that's more of a "high and mighty". Or this guyhttps://pm1.narvii.com/6725/77ca82e02ebe0486e584fe531a1cbebb26bcae72v2_hq.jpg
Kumagawa is more of a, shounen protag kind of personality (gets beaten all the time as a joke, is funny, wants to help others, has determination etc).
While Yujiro, is the kind of human who benchpressed so much, he single handedly (i mean actually hadedly, only using his hands and feet) beat all the american military force and is feared by politicians all around the world as they cannot beat him. That's what i mean by "badass" xD
ALRF literally watched a video and said "he can do this" without any acceptance from other ppl, without it being in the profile and without creating a CRT....he's fine.
I say "Medaka can use All Fiction on time to create a Pseudo-Time Stop" which has been discussed with a lot of ppl, has been accepted, has been added to the profiles and has been used in vs battles countless times....im a hard wanker.
Whatever do what you want at this point idk why i even bother.
ApiesDeathbyLazors wrote: Even if that was the case, which it's not most of the members who voted Incon never came back, their were never enough votes for Medaka ever. The thread just bloated up and then dribeled away.
3 votes changed from Incon to Medaka's side. And again no reason for Gil's win. Without reason there can't be votes, u know that fanbase votes don't count.
The God Of Procrastination wrote: Neither do yours.
Hmm to my knowldegde i've "never" voted on fanbase.
I've always had an argument which i voted on. I'm never like "i vote Medaka" im all about destroying the other side in my arguments not outvoting them. I'd rather win via no valid arguments on their side rather than just outvoting them.
So to date, any time I've seen you debate on a Medaka vs thread, which so far is all I've seen you debate on, you have yet to vote against Medaka/Kumagawa. It's lead me to wonder what characters you think could beat her/him. So, I was wondering if we could play a little game. You find a character, who's under tier 2, that you think could beat Medaka, without it being a complete stomp, and I'll make a vs thread about it. It'd be interesting to see your thought prosses in this.
If you decide to go through with this, then I have one condition for you. Since this is a character you think could beat Medaka, if you decide to join in the debate, you must vote against Medaka.
OHHH! U nasty bastard. Ok now i hate you. Ugh...damn, that is hard. Can i take time to think about this. Also you have to name the rules of the match first. U know "speed, mindset, bloodlusted or not" The Hero is off doe. There is no character who wins against Medaka with that on and you can't convince me. That thing is literally "i wrote you, you win cus i want you to so take on freaking Featherine while u'r at it". I won't agree unless u turn that bullshit off.
ApiesDeathbyLazors wrote: My only request is to avoid JoJo characters, if possible. A few member on here are as fanatical about JoJo as you with Medaka, but much less nice about it.
I almost always avoid these things:
Jojo (huge fanbase, it's really hard to win, realized that when ppl were saying FV redirects Causality Hax [concept] with the best showing being redirecting a 3D thing, not to mention Iap is also against me in Jojo fights, which is a good thing in this case cus i want Medaka to lose xD, though no one in Jojo is taking Medaka on without creating a stomp somehow, can't change my opinion)
Masadaverse (arguably the verse with the biggest fanbase here, it's poinltess to argue against it, realized in in my 2nd try at Medaka vs Hiiragi where ppl were pulling shit out of their asses to stall the fight then called for a close...)
I'll see if i can find something that doesn't have bullshit fanbases. I dislike both fanbases mentioned above. So....maybe sth like fate...BB jk xD.
Btw is the key of my own choosing? Medaka's key i mean.
I mean the whole point of me making it was so you could vote against Medaka, but whatever I guess. Also, half the reason I was trying to make most of the Medaka matches was so I didn't have to seriously comment on them any more, so I probably won't show up to this one, or any others frankly. I'm kinda tired of Medaka Box matches right now. Have fun, I'm sure you"ve got about a dozen others planned.
Well, you have kept being extremely demanding for the staff's time with partially unreasonable Medaka Box revisions, but you are correct that I shouldn't have threatened with a temporary block. That was too harsh. Nevertheless, you have to make an effort to shape up.
Refrain from spamming, trolling, threatening, using derogatory comments of any form (ethnic, homophobic, belittling the autistic, disabled, or mentally ill, etcetera), and rude, vulgar, sexist, etcetera offensive language.
The site rules. It calls "severe irrational bias". Which is not the case here as the only thing making my sentence untrue is a wiki rule that is "medaka is parody". I don't believe that alone is making it irrational. On the other side, i believe the rude behaviour towards me is not allowed either doe.
RebubleUselet wrote: No one is being rude towards you.
This is... Actually a lie and you know that. I will step back in the whole wanking topic here but saying that no ones rude to him is incorrect. I mean, yes, he has his strong MB bias and yes, not every argument he brings is accepted here but calling every point he makes as "wank" or "bullshit", even tho it is a valid point, does sound pretty rude to me.
Huh? Who claimed that people insulted him? Why are you strawmaning me now? I just pointed out that people are rude to him, nothing more, nothing less
And its in his perception if people are rude to him, not yours. I for an instance, think that it IS rude, to call everything one says as wank or bs. I mean instead of asking who was rude to him you simply claimed that no one is. This pretty much shows your position against him. No hard feeling man.
If Fire was making actually valid points, he wouldn't have been reported 3 times on the RVR thread. I think you should understand this.
This is not how it works. Just because he makes valid points sometimes dosnt excuse him of breaking rules or showing negative behavior. No ones giving you a medal for driving down a street correct after overstepping the speed limit 3 times in a row.
Like i said already, i am not here to defend him. Ant and the stuff decides how to deal with him, but no ones deserves being shunned like this for having a too strong opinion on something over silly internet debates for fun.
Look, he has argued about exaggerated abilities for the Medaka Box characters in threads spanning several hundreds of posts in the past, for which staff members have reacted. That is all. There is no need to either exaggerate or trivialise this. He simply received a request to shape up in the future.
I mean yes, i agree on that, but he didnt claimed that people insulted him (Being called wanker is grey zone me thin)
This something i dont wanna answer. Its in Fires interesst to proof his claim. I could point toward names but we are not in school and it isnt something report worthy.
Well i gave you my reasoning in why you seem to antagonize him, if it isnt true then i will let point fall. Just saying that it seems that you have something against him.
There seems to be an misunderstanment here, probably because of my poor english. "No ones giving you a medal for driving down a street correct after overstepping the speed limit 3 times in a row." Lets change that to "No ones letting your prior charge disapper just because youre following the rules once." I am not denying what Ant brings here up. There was a rule violation so he got reported. But him bringing valid points sometimes and him being reported have absolutly zero correlation.
I agree with you. This will be my last post for this topic too, i didnt wanted to be too invested in this whole thing. It wasnt my intention to protect him too, i just disliked how people sometimes claim stuff that just isnt true
Just some out of the many. These sound pretty freaking rude to me. Both of these are without claims, without proof, it's just:
I mention a way for why Medaka wins against x character and back it up with reasons.
User:Y Just comes in and is like "fire is a wanker, u wank, bullshit" without any claims or proof.
And i never said i don't have to provide proof. I have to provide proof making the positive claim. So let's say: I say "Bookmaker is a seal for x, y, z reasons", you can't just answer with "that's bullshit", you need to prove why it's bullshit or why it's invalid.
RebubleUselet wrote: And before you call out others for being rude, try to do something with yourself. It's not like the dislike towards you came out of nowhere.
Well i believe Medaka to be really powerful. Im not arguing her vs 1-A or any bullshit like that. I believe Medaka to win against a lot of people. That is not block worthy. Rude behaviour can't be excused here though as i am not rude nor do i attack anyone through defending Medaka. So I don't believe the like towards the series is a good excuse for the rude behaviour toward people.
I was defending Medaka, i wasn't causing a shit show, i was only using stuff that was already accepted before hand. Come on ant what do you want me to do? If i can't even use stuff that's already been accepted what can i use?
Well it's mostly like, im usually alone. Mr.Common.Sense and Iapitus are not always active when something happens. So i tend to get "out-fandomed" most of the time so i have to debate like 7 guys at once.
Im currently busy and I wont be able to fully explain myself in here right now, I apologize for that. Anyway, I want to discuss you the way you debate and argue Medaka Box threads. It has risen some complaints and I believe that some people are starting to dislike you (not that you should care about that its more me saying that you'd have a easier experience in the wiki without going into threads where 90% of the users are calling you wanker or such).
I will discuss with you how we should debate Medaka, but in the meantime, Im begging you to keep a distance from participating in Medaka versus threads. Dont worry, though, tomorrow we'll talk if you are available.
I must let you know that Im a fan of the series and dont want other fans to be disminished as "wankers" as that creates a "bad mood" and lowers the reputation my favourite series has in the wiki, resulting in people being biased against Medaka Box.