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"If there is light and dark, or rather good and evil, all I want is to dwell in the neutrality that mixes both."

NOTE: ............................................................................. ...March 22, 2018. L i E.

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  • If you have time,comment here since you know Jojo,Fate-chan.

    http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:1313678

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    FateAlbane closed this thread because:
    19:31, March 22, 2018
  • What's good, my man?

    While you were gone, I realized that I should make more matches for the girls of Chrono Trigger ovo.

    Btw, did you get farther in YGOTAS?

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    • Also gtg, here! *warps*

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    • Cal I made a match with a non-Lavos CT character and you ignored it.

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  • First, i'm very very thankful for your explanations and you putting up with me. I just have one question at the moment.



    Is the "city of books" beyond the sea of fragments?

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    • There's no need to be apologetic, really. I'm from the opinion that everyone and everything is all about learning, one way or another.

      Definitely won't be judging anyone based on VS Debating content, as that's really just a little aspect of anyone's life as far as I'm concerned.  And not even a part of the more important ones.

      However, what I pointed out there is still my opinion: Given that you still have doubts after these explanations were made in different or simplified ways, I do believe you will have a hard time grasping the cosmology of Umineko without being familiar with the series. This is not me scolding you or anything. I don't think it's something to feel outright ashamed of either. It's me saying you will definitely need to learn about the verse overtime, if you want to grasp all that. So going to the message walls and asking repeatedly may indeed cause people to tire and get irritated, only generating discussions while you will not get what the answers are all about yet. At that point, both sides get more trouble out of the discussion than any actual positive experience. Hence why I said it should be closed in this case. Ok?

      Anyways. Considering that I've been lacking in time, too, lately (and am still re-reading to make a more thorough analysis/understanding of Chapter 8 of Umineko, myself) I'll give you a short, no-cosmology involved answer again: "Is the city of books beyond the Sea of Fragments?" ...Easiest way I can put this for you is: beyond the surface levels of the Sea, Yes. Beyond it in its entirety, no. The City of Books is the largest structure we are shown. A multi-layered gameboard. It still dwarves Outerversal stuff by a far larger margin than any other structure in the series, but you should think of the Sea more as a background.

      The Sea as a whole, as far as I understand, "starts" at the lowest layer of the Witch Hierarchy, permeates all of its layers, but also permeates an hierarchy and levels leagues above any of that, going aaaall the way up to reaching/becoming one with the Creator.

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    • If it's still hard to understand, just think of it as a literal sea for the timebeing where depending on how many restrictions you currently have/impose on yourself, you can Dive deeper and deeper in it.

      The fragments in it are the more "limited" aspect of the Sea, structures which permeate and belong to various different levels, layers, etc.

      The deepest "Depths" would be far, faaaar beyond any structure we are shown. This "Oblivion" only "limit" would not really be a limit at all, but rather the ultimate loss of all limits, AKA reaching/merging with as a part of the Omnipotent, Boundless Creator.  

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  • How have you been???

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  • First, nice to see you again Fate!

    Second, dunno if Matt told you already, but he, I and Ultima are gonna try revising SMT in the future.

    Get ready for the verse to become even more broken lol.

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    • MagiSinbad ninja'd me here.

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    • Sorry Fate ^__^" But your explaination are more detailed though OwO

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  • Hey Fate! Long time no see! How's it going?

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    • If it's the one with Pacman, know that I'm stil rewatching that dance over and over.

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    • Nice!

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  • Nice to to see you back~ <3

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  • WELCOME BACK FATE!!! *Hugging intensifies*

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  • M-meanie phone.

    Anyways...Makai Wars is finally being close after all this years?

    And i lost hope after all that time waiting

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    • That fight was kek.

      Twas Hajun vs Hadou Gods level of stomps

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    • welp not a bad choice regardless OVO

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