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  • https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:2602026#4

    Could you check this out? I saw you were a Kid Icarus supporter.

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  • https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:2597548

    Wanted to know your thoughts on it. Thanks for your time!

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  • Sorry to bother you, but there is a discussion going on regarding Tier 7; more specifically, the Nuclear reactor robot that the characters scales to. It’s more of a Q/A rather than a full on downgrade, it’s just where does the whole 20 kilotons come from? I am neutral regarding that topic, but your input would help a lot to clear things up.

    (Btw, thanks for the help back on the revision thread)

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  • He's beaten Ultron-Sigma

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  • there's this: https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/06/10/more-burning-questions-about-the-sonic-the-hedgehog-franchise-answered.aspx 

    there's many different worlds apparently "The world that Sonic lives in and the world the humans live in are separate worlds. But, some of the canon games do have Sonic and humans together, and part of that is based on what world is being portrayed when the game is developed. There are kind of different worlds that do exist and sometimes there's some crossover" 

    sonic has a very slight canon but an extremely flexible one

    lizuka confirms sonic and mario are actually firends "We believe it's probably Sonic and Mario, so that although there's that rivalry there, we think there's really a good friendship as well." 

    so.....sonic and mario crossovers = canon to sonic

    mario's canon is determined by nintendo = sonic and mario crossovers = canon to mario as well

    another thing........ zelda and yoshi island......... https://nintendoeverything.com/takashi-iizuka-on-sonic-lost-worlds-yoshizelda-dlc-development-no-mario-stage-more/

    sonic lost world is canon.......

    so based on this they're by extension canon...... yoshi island is linked to mario......

    that officially means sonic is faster and stronger than mario......

    Sonic-stats.png. and Mario-Stats.png.
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    DarkDragonMedeus
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    Done arguing in circles at this point
    06:00, January 15, 2019
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    • dude. i played sonic shuffle on dreamcast, i rewatched all the videos, you got no evidence for what you're saying right now, at this point it's headcannon, until you got me some scans, sonic in my head is still tier 4 and possibly 2-A. there was only one void anyway, illumina is the abstract haxxer, not void bar none, void is similar to iblis in that he's the physical "throw hands" guy, lumina is like mephiles she's the will of illumina for her conscious actions, void is the primitive and physical overture. 

      whoa whoa WHOA, yoshi never used that ability again, nothing ever hints towards him doing it in battle ever, this is a headcannon and a hitchens razor, is there anything confirming mario's punches is as strong as yoshi's star eggs? that's called hax, nothing more lol, the chaos emeralds can "all of time and space" as said by shadow, one chaos emerald almost finished time eater completely in the ps3 generations, one chaos emerald is as limitless as the rest confirmed in SA2, Sonic has casually stepped in to tier 4-3 boi's like ultimate emerl, imperator ix, and much 

      WOT?! (oh no, what? i wasn't well aware tbh but i'm going to debunk that when i get the chance), death egg robot is still infinite universal (universal+) easily, stronger than infinite too and alot of things in forces "do" make sense if you listened to the context, read the script and the manual, there's no such thing as "real" chaos emeralds, they are the same, 7 is the # that is mainly used, however there are many more on the table, ummmmmm no, nothing confirms he couldn't super sonic clearly had his invulnerability bypassed by someone who used the same energy, Dark Gaia was not stomped at all, actually Light Gaia And Dark Gaia were heavily implied as balance of the universe by dr.pickle and tails, which would actually explain alot, he's far more powerful than chaos in comparison, super sonic didn't stomp dark gaia whatsoever lmao, he actually needed to use tactical procedures and team work with light gaia to win lmfao, super sonic even being needed after the events of the adventure games should tier 4-3 bar none. 

      The total Chaos Emerald count in Sonic Spinball is sixteen as opposed to the standard set of seven, and they are all the same color https://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Spinball stop dodging and ducking my man. 

      Sonic has *also* defeated foes amped by chaos emeralds, time stones, and other gems like the phantom ruby, chaos emeralds can amp people to tier 2 mind you. sonic helped knuckles and the chaotix beat metal sonic kai, metal sonic can can distort special zones and warp rings, no excuses lol. 

      Tier 5 Sonic may be a banned topic but tier 4 hasn't been negated yet. the distribution between the two energies is the same, It depends on the users that unify the chaos, this topic is to sort of elaborate on this kind of stuff.

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    • Going to open this real quick to address your points.

      Yes, Void and Lumina Flowlight are both physical embodiments of Illumina. That actual Illumina is an upper dimensional entity who's infinitely larger than the Sonic Team. And the Sonic Team absolutely positively do not even come close to her power. Void And Lumina Flow are featless embodiments who aren't even close to their true self's level. They aren't even 2-B to begin with tbh.

      Using Physical attacks to cause supernovas and give birth to stars isn't really "hax" and it's still a Tier feat regardless. Mario's punches are comparable to Yoshi's eggs because one, Bowser survives hits from Yoshi's eggs as well as various supernovas, so he has Tier 4 durability. And Mario consistently harms Bowser with his punches, so he's Tier 4 as well.

      Infinite doesn't have any Tier 2 feats and neither does Death Egg Robot. And much of those are fake Chaos Emeralds because there's canonically only 7 real Chaos Emeralds; also, Sonic Spinball is non-canon iirc. Also, Chaos Emeralds are only 5-A or above when all seven are altogether; or 5-B with 6 Emeralds. But Sonic doesn't scale to Chaos 6 because he required objects that negated durability. Also, if Tier 5 base Sonic is banned, everything higher than Tier 5 is also banned by default.

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  • Hey DarkDragon could you comment here: https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:2576736#5? Weekly made 3 new weapon pages for Halo but we need some help with scaling.

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    • Fall of Reach and Ghosts of Onyx are my favorites. How bout you guys?

      Also by the Wraith feat you mean the one where Fred and Kelly steal the tanks and use it to blast into a underground base?

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    • Ghost of Onyx is quite good, Xytan Jar Wattinree is my favorite character.

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  • Given that you handled Bobsican's Sonic thread very well, are there any improvements that you think should be made to the regulations in our Alternative Canon and Composite Profiles page?

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    • I am very uncertain too, but DDM seems to make sense mostly.

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    • Okay. Thanks for the reply.

      Do either of you have a suggestion for some text column that should be inserted into the page, or does the existing text need to be revised as well?

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  • Explain to me how the toei continuity can be a thing.

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    • Didn't make him that much stronger, and even well before Tournament of Power, Master Roshi did easily curbstomp more than a hundred Frieza Soldiers who should be 5-B each at bare minimum. A PL of 1000 is kind of a baseline to be in Frieza's army. Roshi also trained to be on Krillin and Tien's level.

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    • @DarkDragonMedeus 

      Frieza did state the frieza force has went down since his absent at the hands of trunks and roshi as you stated has trained in secret 

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  • Hey DDM. I was wondering if you could help out with a thread I just created.

    https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:2562582

    It's essetially talking about fodder enemies in fiction, and how to justify the power rating for all of them. I'm confident that this will help flesh out certain verses, such as Kid Icarus, which I saw you were also a supporter of, and I could really use all the help that I can get. If you can manage to find the time to give it a quick look, I'd very much appreciate it.

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