I saw you edited the Black Panther page earlier in the day and I was wondering if you can add all the abilities in my thread to Black Panther profile. Everything other then the durability negation feat (that one needs more opinions) was accepted. If you are too busy or you don't want to do it, it's alright.
I watched it up to episode 10, but it's really nowhere near as good as yahari, couldn't feel motivated to continue watching it, only thing that interested me was the mc, everything else i don't really care for.
Usually just one or two good stuff from a season, this season i feel that's made in abyss, and yea there will most definitely be some sort of transported to another world or op dude with a harem anime next season, every season there is one.
I think shield hero is coming out next season, that is actually a good transported to another world series though.
Both, the manga you can find on any manga site, like here for instance.
The light novel is far behind the web novel and i am not even sure if there are english translations for it.
The web novel is here. The manga is about 46 chapters into the web novel, the light novel from what i am aware of is about 80+ chapters into the web novel, also heard the light novel has slight differences with the web novel, but the story is overall the same.
So I started the manga today and finished it now I'm hooked. So I wanted to ask does the manga leave out any details from the light novel or not? If it doesn't I want to ask where does the manga end in the light novel. If not I'll just start reading from the first volume.
The manga doesn't leave anything out, but i have no idea where you can get the light novel, don't think it even has a english translation. The light novel is about 80+ chapter into the web novel, the web novel is at chapter 218, if you want to read the web novel go here, the manga is about chapter 46 in the web novel i think, you will have to use the way back machine for those chapters up to like 100 and something i think though, since one of the translators for the series deleted their website.
The light novel changes some minor things like how characters look, and i heard that the latest volume that features the birth of the demon lord arc added more stuff, or may have changed some stuff, don't remember which.
No light novels can take years to get translated, at best you can maybe find the first 2 or 3 volumes of this series translated i assume, but that's still going to be behind the manga, you best bet is the web novel.
I was wondering if u could take a look at how the characters are scaled. I tried keeping everything as reasonable as possible but after I dropped out of the revision thread due to not knowing enough about the verse, I come back to see the characters are 6-C when the best feat I saw was 7-B.
So, from what i can see it's alot of upgrades being proposed based on statements of using a certain about of power, one about the choice arc coming out to city level is ok i guess but can't see the calc, that result was multipled by 20 cause the buildings that were destroyed were stated to be 20x stronger than normal, that is ok i guess.
The other stuff though i am iffy about, since it's based on characters saying they have only used a certain amount of their power and then multiplying a calc calculated result to that. I don't know if you can do that based off statements of power.
I wasn't being sarcastic, though i do feel the reasoning for her tiering was already clearly written.
I think building level is a lowball as well, mamika's attack was larger than the surrounding buildings, it was probably a city block level attack, large building level at least imo, so yea it should probably be calc.
I was gonna make a selestia profile next due to her being pretty op with that infinite space hax, that attacks concepts, but didn't really plan on a verse page, guess i could do one.
Can scale the other characters to altair, if they can deflect her swords, they scale to her so need to get the calc for altair done first, there was also another good feat i remember from Aliceteria when she made a pretty good sized crater in the ground, will probably need that calc too if i am to do a verse page.
I can ask for them to be calculated. First I'll ask for the Magical Splash Flare. Could I get the scan / clip of the other feat? I'll ask for that one next. And yeah that'd be cool, these are gonna be some pretty haxxed profiles lol.
Yeah definitely we should get everything figured out before we start on the verse profile.
Ok finally got through the episodes again and got all the relevant feats, one thing i noticed is apparently altair controls destines? Before charon interrupted aliceteria, the plan was for aliceteria to destroy all the destines altair controls, selesia was going to stop them, kanoya gather them and aliceteria was going to destroy them. No idea how to take this feat, sounds like fate manipulation.
I only asked about the mamika feat, you should just post the others then.
Also about altair, it was said physical attacks won't work on her, you have to attack her concept itself, which selestia used that gate concept which had infinite space, altair escape by finding an exit in infinite space, so does she have concept manipulation? I am not sure,
That's already on her profile, it is impressive, but it's not like she can control the characters she summons, what's more impressive is her ability to revise stories, she used it and erased selesia's Vogelchevalier, and changed selesia's sword into a flower.
Well i see a pretty big explosion in the preview, just eyeballing that's at least a city block level blast, gonna be another feat that needs a calc, also looks like altair is pulling some crazy stuff, we will see next episode.
Welp so much for me wanting to make a battle between Hackmon and Altair. She's most likely getting an 8-B or higher upgrade instead of an High 8-C one. Oh well I'll just try and search for some haxxed 8-B characters for her to fight now.
There are only 3 episodes left in Re:Creators Episode 20, 21 and 22. If Altair suddenly shows that at full power she could destroy the planet than she is definitely becoming the next BB. But I'd rather have her stay at either tier 7 or 6.
I am beginning to think that due to how broken altair is, sota's character will be a deus ex machina which beats her and probably resurrects everyone who has died, either that or altair is so broken the audience doesn't accept it and she dies or something.
I like that idea a bad guy wins and good guys loses. And if there's a anime that could pull that off than it's definitely Re:Creators. They are the only anime series that might pull something as crazy as the villain winning.
Holy s***, altair is broken she can negate every power up a character has ever had and revert them back to how they were beginning of series and also can erase things from the plot, basically existence erase, she has become more ridiculous now.
By the way did Altair regenerate herself when she got destroyed by Sirius' Holopsicon? Or was that another form of reality warping? Cause if it's regeneration what lvl would it be Low-Godly? Also shouldn't she also have Holopsicon 66 the one that Sirius used? Since Sirius is a perfect copy of Altair which means Altair should also be able to use it right?
Dang it Altair is possibly getting upgraded past tier 8 now I need to find some tier 7 for her to fight.
Altair basically took over sirius, sirius has no personality, basically an empty shell, has no character or anything she couldn't even talk, altair used that to her advantage and instead of sirius taking her over, she took her over.
Just look at this broken hax, if you weren't op from the beginning of your series, altair will just revert you make to your bos version, like wtf. She has literal plot manipulation, changing plot and removing plot twist and making plot disappear...
By the way shouldn't Altair also have Complete Arsenal? I mean she does almost have an infinite number of abilities due to having many creators. Just like how Yama is under Complete Arsenal for having over 9000 characters abilities.
Though complete arsenal seems different from what altair has, complete arsenal is the ability to have all powers and abilities (which sounds like an NLF btw).
Description of the ability "User possesses an endless number of abilities, covering every possible effect and countermeasure. They can use any existing power as well as those yet to be, as their complete power database includes all potential abilities" Altair doesn't exactly have control over all potential abilities just that she gets abilities from every media she is featured in, so her powers keep increasing endlessly.
Did you really just say that!? That would literally make Altair and Sirius like what the third and fourth characters to have that ability as well as Re:Creators being the only series to have 2 Complete Arsenal users.
EDIT: So basically similar to Yama possibly has Complete Arsenal. Due to a sheer number of abilities that borderlines having all of them.
I think the page really should probably be deleted it's riddled with NLF's, saying things like having all powers and abilities, all possible and impossible abilities regardless of their level, sounds like the character is omnipotent, only an omnipotent character should be able to do such a thing.
Sweet, so after it gets calculated and once Re Creators ends I'll make a CRT to figure out her abilities. Also apparently there's a manga and a light novel which might have better feats but I can't find either of them.
It's pretty much like Dragon Ball Super a manga adaptation of Re:Creators. Plus a spinoff of what happened in between the episodes focusing on the point of view of a new characters who was pretty much an innocent bystander in this whole mess. Also I'm pretty sure there isn't a light novel.
So apparently it's a thing, looked and can't find it either, who knows may have just been a one shot, if the manga does have better feats though, would bring into question which between the manga and anime is canon.
From what I've seen in 20 episodes so far, Altair is indeed incredibly haxxed. If she were to confront monstrous and bloodcurling wyvern Akantor from Monster Hunter, which is at least 7-B, that would end with an easy win. She should fight Gilgamesh with the Enuma Elish or at least with the Gate of Babylon. That would be really interesting.
We still don't know her full capabilities (even she doesn't knowprobably). It is not possible for her to destroy a town with one attack from what was shown but I can imagine her winning with a 5-B character, using her haxes like Casuality Manipulation for example. The only major weakness of her I found is that without public acceptance, she would simply cease to exist. If you were to destroy everything connected to her and erase memories of her from everyone, she would just vanish (which is very unlikely but could be the result of a huge meteor striking Japan for example).
The current biggest problem with Altair is that I'm not sure if there's anybody between tier 8 to 6 and maybe even higher that can negate her abilities without one shotting her like Reinhard Heydrich with his spear.
Also I've been rewatching the series and I think Altair and Sirius should also have Paralysis and possibly type 8 immortality.
The paralysis came from Sirius paralyzing Altair by throwing her weapon into the ground before she used Holopsicon The Sixty-Sixth Movement of Cosmos, Existence Change.
The Type 8 Immortality comes from Altair saying "My Existence is sustained by the infinite number of Creators who add to this poem." Which probably means as long as somebody writes a new story about her she won't disappear.
Also I'm pretty sure Altair should also have the abilities that Sirius used since they clearly said that Sirius is a perfect reflection of Altair with all her powers.
She should have existence change i guess, instead of sirius taking her over, she took her over, so she has all her abilities.
Type 8 immortality i am iffy on though, yea her existence is sustained by the creators, cause as long as creators create anything about her she will continue to get more abilities, but not sure if it means she literally can't die as long as creators create new stories about her, need more proof.
Alright than so if there is a revision thread for Re: Creators than some of the topics would probably be Altair's abilities which sounds iffy such as her possible Physical Damage Immunity via Conceptual Manipulation and her Type 8 Immortality right?
Probably, and her ap upgrade which is in the process of being worked on, might yield higher results. I personally don't buy the physical damage immunity and type 8 immortality, but we will discuss that when the time comes.
I am pretty sure she created a universe.... Fate Reconstruction does what it's called, twist fate, altair changed setesuna's fate of dying and then created a new universe where she can exist so her existence doesn't warp the laws of the universe and destroy everything.
As for whether this is an outlier, no it was stated the audiences emotions were boosting altairs power, so this is a more powerful version of altair.
Anyway this is a far better conclusion than i thought it would be, wonder what next episode will be about.
Tier: 8-B or higher (Capable of damaging Mamika who survived her own Magical Splash Flare.) | Low 2-C (Created an entire universe for Setsuna.)
Base | After being powered by emotions
Finally! I can make some Altair fights without her stomping people. But I'm probably going to have to wait until after the Re: Creators revision thread is made and Altair's profile is finished. I actually kinda want them to release a list of Altair's Holopsicon. But that would just make her way too op.
And yeah this was a good conclusion. Some say the next episode is going to be an epilogue.
Alright than after the revision thread is made and done I'll celebrate by pitting Altair against the top 3 Low 2-Cs on the site Lucemon, Lavos, and Yggdrasil and probably also gonna put her base against a strong tier 6 like Novel Kars and maybe Mirage Mewtwo. Are these going to be stomps or not?
After episode 21st, I am pretty convinced that Altair would win with the strongest version of Gilgamesh. The Holopsicon is allegedly omnipotent, according to her and it seems that even she doesn't fully understand how powerful it can be.
She's not however, completely invincible nor can do anything, there are limits to her powers. In my opinion, the only one who genuinely stands a chance with her in Re:Creators is Magane, though Altair is too intelligent and cautious to be fooled by her so she stands at the top in that world.
Well the strongest version of gilgamesh is just 5-A, altair will be low 2-C so in terms of raw power she beats him, she has crap speed though, just hoping next episode they explain more about the universe altair created and say something like she exists everywhere in it, that would be good.
Do you think Souta could kill Altair with Magane's amulet? I am not entirely sure. What would win: Chikujouin's power ("A lie about a lie, it turns inside-out upon itself") or Holopsicon - Movement of Cosmos? Don't know. Guess, we will never know. Souta probably didn't know either so he preferred to bring back Setsuna to a new story (he also wanted to witness her become alive again). Only he and Magane knew about amulet's power by the way and he didn't have time to explain it to others. I can see a few ways how Himegimi could pull off her victory. She's so broken that I don't even know where to start.The Vicissitude of Fortune (btw that is a title of a book) is a possible answer to my question. In that way, Magane or Souta would die instead of her. The last problem is about audience acceptance. It wouldn't have effect on that particular amulet but it would on Altair. Well, as the spectators were wishing her well, she plausibly stood a chance.