I think that's the one we used to use, which was actually done by the same artist before the Yncarne was a thing.
Technically, there is still no actual depiction of Ynnead itself, but the current one is based off the Yncarne under the idea that Ynnead might be similar to another Eldar god such as Khaine, whose avatars look very similar to his physical manifestation.
This reminds me of why I like Warhammer Novels more than the general lore. They strip away the exaggerated grimdarkness of the Codexes and add depth.
The Audio Drama literally begins with the Prioress talking to Miriya saying that the Sororitas are to be a force of inspiration and love and that for every heretic they burn they must welcome a new soul into the Emperor's light, and that not all duties can be solved through blood and fire.
A far cry from the stereotype view you'd gain from a cursory read through the lore.
They visit a world where people worship the Emperor primarily through self-punishment, so they do stuff like wear cloaks with barbs and spikes that stab at their own flesh, children get flogged in public by priests, and people do ritualistic burnings with candle spears.
The reaction from the Sisters range from "The fuck is this" to "This is revolting"
That would be a perfect ending to the 13th Black Crusade. A New Battle of Terra to mark the beginning of a new age (Since it's all but confirmed that 8th Edition is a transition period in the storyline).
Honestly, though. I kinda don't want the Emperor to revive. He's a dick.
Iona looked up and blinked. ‘I… I am far from absolution. Lost to any exculpation. I offer myself to repentance.’
‘No…’ Miriya was surprised by the denial that fell from her mouth. At her side, Portia’s hand flew to her lips. Only Cassandra dared to whisper the terrible truth that all of them suddenly realised.
‘She is invoking the Oath of the Penitent…’
Iona shrugged off her red robe and let it drop to the stone floor in a heap. Behind her, Sister Reiko silently gathered it up, never once looking upon the other woman as she trembled.
‘Before the Emperor I have sinned.’ Iona’s voice found a brittle strength and swelled to fill the chapel. ‘Beyond forgiveness. Beyond forbearance.’ She blinked back tears. ‘Beyond mercy.’
Miriya looked to the Canoness, a pleading expression on her face. Galatea gave her a tiny nod and the Celestians came to their feet, moving to surround Iona. All of them knew the pattern of the ritual by heart.
Miriya, Portia, Cassandra and Isabel each took an item of Iona’s wargear and armour, detaching it and casting it aside. As one they spoke the next verse of the catechism. ‘We turn our backs upon you. We cast off your armour and your arms.’
‘I leave this company of my own free will,’ Iona continued, ‘and by my will shall I return.’ Behind her, Reiko used a rough-hewn blade to rip the Sister’s discarded robe into strips that Portia and Isabel tied over Iona’s bare arms and legs. Cassandra strung barbed expiation chains across her torso and pressed seals bearing the words of the oath into her stripped tunic. ‘I shall seek the Emperor’s forgiveness in the darkest places of the night,’ intoned the woman.
Sister Reiko bent forward with the knife and reached for a hank of Iona’s hair, but Miriya took the blade from her with a stony countenance. The Sister Superior leaned close and whispered in her friend’s ear.
‘You do not have to do this.’
Iona looked back at her. ‘I must. With just one touch he hollowed me out, did such horrific things… I cannot rest until I cleanse myself.’
Miriya nodded once and said the next stanza aloud. ‘When forgiveness is yours, we shall welcome you back.’ With sharp, hard motions, she cut off Iona’s straw-coloured tresses until her scalp was bare and dashed with shallow scratches. ‘Until such time you are nameless to us.’
With that, the oath was sealed, and the Battle Sisters took two steps back before turning away from her. Miriya was the last to do so, gripping the paring knife in her hand.
‘See me and do not see,’ Iona sighed, speaking the final verse. ‘Know me and know fear, for I have no face today but this one. I stand before you a Sister Repentia, until absolution finds me once more.’
‘So shall it be.’ Galatea bowed her head, and all others in the chapel did the same. Iona walked past them all, into the stewardship of a lone Battle Mistress at the chapel doors. The Mistress carried a pair of matched neural whips that crackled and hummed with deadly power. In her hand she held a ragged red hood. Iona donned it, and then they were gone.
Are you referring to this quote for the Crota thing?
"Toland tells us that Crota's presence in our world is a shadow. That its true power resides in a netherworld forged by his will. We must pass through a keyhole between realities, navigate the seething midnight of Crota's world-mind, and overthrow the ascendant champions that gather to his throne."
Because Crota's territory within the ascendent realm is one throne world, same with Oryx, and those territories are definitely not universe-sized. I don't remember if they have an exact stated size, actually.
Atheon is definitely powerful, but also not universal. Otherwise the Vex's plan would have already succeeded.
The Sol Progeny and Templar are also Vex, and thus have a great control over time, but definitely aren't infinite in speed from what we're shown. They don't function like Zoom when in the material universe.
"Whispered lore and fragmentary theories suggest that Crota represents a distinct class of Hive entities, not resident in our material world. My latest synthesis of this scattered esoterica suggests that Crota's 'home' is a universe created or remade by his power and occupied by Hive organisms of immense age."
This? Because the universe being referred to would still be his throne world. The entire realm all the throne worlds are housed in existed prior to Oryx discovering it, for instance.
Depends entirely on context, and if nothing contradicts this.
I talked to Ever, Saik, and Dragon about this, and they're uncertain. I wanted to get your opinion.
So, Arceus originates from the chaos/nothingness before everything. And his "egg" was created at the heart of it, where everything became one. Note how there is only one thing: nothingness.
If the llama's entire existence was formed by nothingness' coalescence, would he have some sort of godly regen (Mid Godly), due to the fact that if he and everything else was erased to nonexistence, it would literally just be how he existed in the first place?
I mean, he didn't directly come from nothingness. He came from the egg, which was in the nothingness. We don't know if he could just return from being reduced to nothingness, again. Mainly because we've never really seen him regenerate.
The egg itself came from the abyss coalescing into a center, and said center becoming the egg, therefore "birthing" the Original One. What I'm trying to get at is that, if Arceus is erased with everything, the chaos will coalesce into the egg, giving "birth" to Arceus again in no time (and I mean that literally, given that the entire concept of time doesn't exist)
Plus, quite a few characters with godly regen (low to true), we don't see regen ever.
Just wanna sort this out. Don't wanna embarrass myself making a thread.
But if Arceus' egg is nonexistence put into one place. Pretty sure quite a few characters are Mid Godly for being nonexistent to this extent. Why would erasing his existence matter if his existence is nonexistence?
Looking at our own page for chaos before creation, and it does seem to be the case here that chaos would be referred to nonexistence. Iirc, most fictions use chaos like that if they mean on a universal scale.
Also, your iterpretation makes Arceus 3-A.
(Sorry if I'm bugging you...but hey. At least it's not Kirby)
It's not, though. You are assuming that based on literally nothing.
Again, "where all things became one". All. As in, everything. As in, more than nothing. Because at the center of chaos, all things were one. There was no difference between anything. Arceus changed that.
You're basing it off a sentence that says "this is a possibility" on the page for a power?
Cal, I don't think you understand what chaos is. If I say "There's only water in this cup", it doesn't mean there's no hydrogen atoms in said cup, because hydrogen is part of what makes up water, just as particles make up those atoms. There being only chaos means nothing had form, and was just a giant formless mess.