| “ | All things stand as I determined the morning of the worlds. For you are the king of contrivance and manipulation Samael. But in that. As in all things----you learned from your father. | „ |
| ~ The Presence to Michael and Lucifer |
Summary
The Presence is the representation of the Judeo-Christian God in the DC Multiverse and the father of both Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos. Although his power is virtually unparalleled, he rarely interferes in the affairs of mortals directly, instead acting through agents and aspects of himself, such as The Spectre. Is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. While the Source and the Overvoid represent the blank canvas from which creation is modelled, the Presence can be described as the one responsible for fashioning said canvas to its will, and is thus the abstract embodiment of every Creator God dreamed and worshipped by mankind over the ages, that which is known by millions of names but in the end represents the same concept. Together with the two aforementioned entities, The Presence can be said to represent God.
Powers and Stats
Tier: 1-C | 1-B
Key: Vertigo Cosmology | Crisis Cosmology
Name: Yahweh, Jehovah, The Presence, God of the Covenant
Origin: DC Comics/Vertigo
Gender: Inapplicable. Portrayed as Male
Age: Inapplicable. Older than Creation
Classification: Deity, Supreme God
Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Reality Warping, Holy Manipulation, Immortality (Type 1), Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 2), Large Size (Type 10; Holds all of creation in his hand. True form noted as not being able to be comprehended by others in the verse[1]), Nigh-Omniscience (Writes the book of Destiny and therefore knows everything within his plan,[1]), Omnipresence (Called everything[2] and everyone[3]), Law Manipulation and Fate Manipulation (Defined everything in creation; things only happen when he wills it[4]), Void Manipulation (Melded the void into form[5]), Shapeshifting (Shown here[1]), Transmutation (As shown here[1]), Abstract Existence (Type 1; is the light opposite[6] of the Great Darkness[7]), Void Manipulation (Melded the void into form[8]), Paralysis Inducement (As shown here[9]), Mind Manipulation (Saved Wally from Eclipso's control[10]), Power Bestowal (Multiverses created by the Supercelestials are created from connective energies that come from him[11]), Probability Manipulation (All things happen due to his will, as he decides every variable and law[4]) and Possession (Possessed a dog[12]).Resistance to Death Manipulation, Madness Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Dream Manipulation, and Destruction (Transcends the Endless, who embody those concepts), Conceptual Manipulation (Created all of creation and all its concepts and conceptual entities)
Attack Potency: Complex Multiverse level (The Presence is the creator god of the DC-Vertigo continuity, immensely above both Michael Demiurgos and Lucifer Morningstar) | Hyperverse level (Equal in importance and complexity to The Source and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, being the supreme creative force from which absolutely everything, existent or nonexistent, sprung from)
Speed: Omnipresent | Omnipresent
Lifting Strength: Immeasurable | Immeasurable
Striking Strength: High Complex Multiverse level | Hyperverse level
Durability: High Complex Multiverse level | Hyperverse level
Stamina: Infinite | Infinite
Range: Complex Multiverse level | Hyperverse level
Standard Equipment: None Notable | None Notable
Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscient | Nigh-Omniscient
Weaknesses: None notable | None notable
Notes:
The Presence's avatar has stated that he was shaped by external forces, apparently intended to be the beliefs and imaginations of humanity, rather than a 4th Wall reference to the writers or real-world humans. This concept was introduced in The Sandman: A Dream of a Thousand Cats, which depicts that originally cats were the dominant species on Earth, being giant beasts which hunted humans. However, the collected dream of a world where humans ruled over cats altered reality from its very beginning, making it so that humans were always larger than cats.
The avatar form of The Presence is incapable of killing The Great Darkness, with both being equal halves of the same whole. The Presence is also not fully Omniscient. There are certain things he doesn't know, and which occur outside of his plan, and he cannot know the thoughts of comparable beings.
Finally, multiple comics have either suggested or outright stated that the avatar of the Presence was born out of the primordial Void from which all things originate, thus making him just another character is drawn from the canvas that is The Overmonitor. However, the true form of the Presence, that being The Creator/The Divine Presence, exists on a similar level and is strongly related to the Overvoid itself.
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